Finding an address using Cable

[jeffc02]

Im a novice , yes I am.
I have lost contact with the guy who made my show eq box and since he did it 700 miles away, he wasnt with me at home to get me online. I am using a hub, with two other EQ pcs running off it. They obviosly are online, but how do I get the redhat box online?
I am paying for 3 adresses so thats not an issue, the same box used to use 98se and was online from the same desk before the redhat was made.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If help is alreaddy listed somewhere in the forum, please link it for me.
Thanx all

[high_jeeves]

You need to set up dhcp... I would recommend you go to one of the major linux sites, and find a networking, or dhcp how-to... try www.linux.org to start with.

--Jeeves

[LordCrush]

You have 3 staic ip addresses from you provider ?

use ifconfig to configure the 3rd address to your Linux-PC - dont know what graphic tool is used with redhat.

ifconfig --help or man ifconfig for further details

[Tux Racer]

The GUI proggie in RedHat is 'neat' /usr/bin/neat

[jeffc02]

and i added a new ethernet card, then a NAC popped up. Seems im getting closer.
heres what i see that isnt filled in...
irq- unknown with a drop down with numbers
MEM- blank
IO-
IO1-
IO2-
DMAO-
DMA1-
It does recognize my ethernet card, and gives the correct adapter brand.....3com 3c501
Yes i have 3 ip addresses that im paying for, but obviously, only two are being used. Til this gets up and running that is.

Thanks to all who have replied.
So far, I see that RoadRunner HATES Linux. They wont even acknowledge its existance and are rude when it comes to questions about it.

Late

[high_jeeves]

You know that for the cost of 2 months of your extra 2 IP addresses, you could go buy a little netgear or linksys NAT box so you will only need one 1 IP from Time Warner, you get a firewall (although, not a great one), and you can set up your machine much easier using DHCP?

I would recommend you go this route (I think you may be the only guy on the planet who actually pays for more than one IP from a cable service..)

--Jeeves

[jeffc02]

if i can even surf the net with that box ill be happy, seq is my highest goal. I have been told by tons of ppeeps not to pay for 3.
so far ive spent 3 days not playing eq but surfing for the answer. Why is this so tuff if Linux is so great?

Late

[jeffc02]

the extra ips only cost 10 a month. I think the savings in a year wouls equate better to that cost.

[Mr. Suspicious]

Why is this so tuff if Linux is so great?

It's not "tuff", all you need to do is read the manual and a lot will become clear. Your "extra IP" setup makes it a LOT "tuffer" for you (to understand and to setup) as HJ already explained.

[high_jeeves]

the extra ips only cost 10 a month. I think the savings in a year wouls equate better to that cost.

Actually, 2x 10 per month = $20 per month. My router was less than $50.. so its a bit over 2 months, but a far cry from a year..



Why is this so tuff if Linux is so great?


It really isnt.. you should have set this up when you installed linux, but even with it not being set up then, it shouldnt take more than 10 minutes to set up. There are atleast 2-3 good Networking FAQ/How-TOs out there, you just need to read some of the basic linux sites.

--Jeeves

[LordCrush]

/agree jeeves

A NAT-Router would be the best way, then setup DHCP and use and RFC-Network for your pc´s (e.g. 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254 mask 255.255.255.0)

[showeqgratefull]

Hello,

here is my setup

cable-modem
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SMC Router
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Hub
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PC1 PC2 PC3 showeq

Each box has their own ip address on the 192.168.123 network. You will not be able to connect the pc's or showeq box directly to the router
because the router will route all traffic directly to the box that it is addressed to... i use the firewall software that is on the smc router to block all unwanted traffic and i use a nice piece of software that will publish my cable-modem ip address to a domain name (tzo.com) , i would suggest this software for all cable-modem users..


If you were to use this configuration , you would only need 1 ip address from you cable company..therefore saving you $20 a month...

[fgay trader]

/em is jealous

3 static IP addresses... /drool. Stupid Verizon only gives me 1 dynamic IP and in my area they quote "Have plans to provide static IP addresses to our clients by the end of the year" end quote. This has been on their site since early 2001.

*sigh*... bastards! /rude Verizon

[LordCrush]

/nod - stupid german telekom - 1 static ip costs about double :(

[high_jeeves]

I think that we have a nomenclature problem here. I really dont think he has 3 STATIC IP addresses, he just has the standard RoadRunner 3 DYNAMIC IP addresses. I think this for a few reasons:

1) they are $10 a month... not a chance that a static IP is $10 a month
2) He uses roadrunner, same as me. According to the roadrunner website, they dont offer static IP address leases.
3) He isnt very familiar with networking (nothing personal), so why would he spend a fortune on static addresses?

--Jeeves

[jeffc02]

you hit it on the buttone. I pay 3 ips. Dunno diff between static/dynamic yet.
I found a site that says roadrunner does have a self install for linux for an whopping 50 bucks. My local RR provider ( time warner) doesnt know about this yet tho i guess.
Im going to shoot for the last setup suggestion, maybe this weekend. Seems pretty easy to understand, then Ill call and cancel the other IPs.

I totally appreciate the feedback from all you guys. Ill figure this shit out with all your help.
No i have never had any exsperience programming or otherwise, so I didnt even know where to start looking for FAQs.

Be Gentle, Im new to this stuff.

Late

[Dedpoet]

Dunno diff between static/dynamic yet.

A static address is one that is always the same. That is, you set your pc to an address, let's say 192.168.100.4, and it always has that address, even after powering it off and back on. A dynamic address changes, sometimes rarely, sometimes often, as determined by the server giving them out. Most broadband providers give you dynamic address. You set your machine up to ask for one when it boots up, it sends out a request, and the server gives it an available address. Some companies do this to make it hard to run servers (though tools now exist to get around this), and some because it's easier to administer.

Some DHCP servers have incredibly long leases (my old cable provider let me use the same address for 6 months) and some have short ones (my current provider uses 24 hours). The nature of the beast is that after your lease time is up, you get a new address. If you power your system off more than half way through your lease, you will also get a new address when you power back on.

On a Windows machine, you can see all of this information at a DOS prompt by typing "winipcfg" (for Windows 95 or 98), or "ipconfig /all" (for NT/2000/XP).

Killing the last few minutes of the work day,
-Ded

[Mr. Suspicious]

Im going to shoot for the last setup suggestion, maybe this weekend. Seems pretty easy to understand, then Ill call and cancel the other IPs.

Good plan! It'll realy save you a lot of headaches =)


Ill figure this shit out with all your help.

No you won't, this is not a networking related forum, nor a magnetron related forum, nor a psychology related forum, this is a ShowEQ related forum.. there's a MASSIVE ammount of forums (and FAQ's) that are just waiting for you to visit them and read the information available on them. I'm not saying "go away" (altho it might sound that way), I'm just telling you that you are withholding yourself from finding lots and lots of interesting and challenging information, which will enrich your knowledge and make you learn things beyond your wildest dreams by not visiting those other more ontopic places.


No i have never had any exsperience programming or otherwise, so I didnt even know where to start looking for FAQs.

The BEST place to start looking for FAQ's is http://www.google.com, on FAQ's relating to linux the following places are a must-visit (and bookmark):

http://www.linux.org
http://www.linuxdocs.org

and ofcourse the manual of the distro of your choise:
http://wwww.yourdistroofchoise.(com/org)


I found a site that says roadrunner does have a self install for linux for an whopping 50 bucks.

I found a site, that explains how to do it for free. Using http://www.google.com I searched using the simple words: "Linux networking Roadrunner (http://www.google.nl/search?q=linux+networking+roadrunner&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=nl&lr=)" and gotten a tonn of great links, ammongst others (4th result) this splendid walk through: http://www.seawood.org/rr/linux-setup.html

Ofcourse this might be a bit over your head, because you will need a bit of basic Linux knowledge, which you can find at http://www.linux.org , http://www.linuxdocs.org and ofcourse the manual of the distro of your choise: http://wwww.yourdistroofchoise.(com/org)

[dbrot]

Why don't you cancel 2 of the IPs and only pay for one IP and set your linux box up to do NAT. That would save you some money.

See this link below
http://seq.sourceforge.net/showthread.php?threadid=566