Install for RedHat 7.2

[tgf]

Well, after MUCH research and LOTS of help here on the Forum, I have developed my own instructions for this great program. One thing I found lacking was explicit instructions for “from scratch” SEQ. Anyway, BIG kudos to Zaphod and Yendor for listing out the RPMs needed, and to Zaphod again, I REALLY REALLY appreciate you posting the QT-gcc3. My biggest problem was that the qt-gcc3 rpm specifies a different qt directory than all the other qt compiling instructions so that threw me for a loop. Anyway, here are my instructions of how to get it to work from a fresh install of RedHat 7.2.

1) download or buy Redhat 7.2 . Check out www.redhat.com to find the iso’s for 7.2. You will need disk 1 and 2, you won’t need the rpms disks.

2) Install Linux workstation but use the CUSTOM option. This will allow you to install the rpm files during install and save LOTS of time and effort.


3) Go through the screens till you get to the one titled Selecting Package Groups. This will only occur on the Custom install option. At the bottom of this page select the box marked SELECT INDIVIDUAL then hit NEXT

4) This will take you to the Individual Package Selection screen. At the top there is Tree View and Flat View. Select Flat View to see all available RPM files to install. Below is the list from Yendor and Zaphod of what needs to be installed. I have also listed what the install calls each file as install does not display which version is used. Believe me, it is the correct version that everyone is using and it works. Anyway, select the packages, I listed them in order that install lists them.

XFree86-devel
XFree86-libs
autoconf
automake
binutils
cvs
freetype
gcc3
gcc3-c++
gd
gd-devel
gdbm
gdbm-devel
glibc
glibc-common
glibc-devel
kernel-headers
libgcc
libjpeg
libjpeg-devel
libmng
libmng-devel
libpcap
libpng
libpng-devel
libstdc++3
libstdc++3-devel
libtool
libtool-libs
m4
make
patch
zlib
zlib-devel

These packages are actually the following RPMs but you really don't need to know that do you. Just use the above names during the install and go to step 5

XFree86-devel-4.1.0-3.i386.rpm
XFree86-libs-4.1.0-3.i386.rpm
autoconf-2.1.3-14.noarch.rpm
automake-1.4p5-2.noarch.rpm
binutils-2.11.90.0.8-9.i386.rpm
cvs-1.11.1p1-3.i386.rpm
freetype-2.0.3-7.i386.rpm
gcc3-3.0.1-3.i386.rpm
gcc3-c++-3.0.1-3.i386.rpm
gd-1.8.4-4.i386.rpm
gd-devel-1.8.4-4.i386.rpm
gdbm-1.8.0-10.i386.rpm
gdbm-devel-1.8.0-10.i386.rpm
glibc-2.2.4-13.i386.rpm
glibc-common-2.2.4-13.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.2.4-13.i386.rpm
kernel-headers-2.4.7-10.i386.rpm
libgcc-3.0.1-3.i386.rpm
libjpeg-6b-16.i386.rpm
libjpeg-devel-6b-16.i386.rpm
libmng-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
libmng-devel-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
libpcap-0.6.2-9.i386.rpm
libpng-1.0.12-2.i386.rpm
libpng-devel-1.0.12-2.i386.rpm
libstdc++3-3.0.1-3.i386.rpm
libstdc++3-devel-3.0.1.i386.rpm
libtool-1.4-8.i386.rpm
libtool-libs-1.4-8.i386.rpm
m4-1.4.1-5.i386.rpm
make-3.79.1-8.i386.rpm
patch-2.5.4-10.i386.rpm
zlib-1.1.3-24.i386.rpm
zlib-devel-1.1.3-24.i386.rpm


5) Finish the install as usual.

added this step here. This location is from the


6) Once loaded, log in as root and open up a terminal session. Create your download directory

cd/
mkdir /seq
cd/seq

7) Startup Netscape and come back to this page and save this file as /seq/seq.txt

8a) type “bash seq.txt” [to run the batch]
you will get to the CVS login so hit enter for password and it will continue on. NOTE: Due to the change to get libEQ.a from an "official" site I have recently changed the libEQ.a URL (5/9/02)

8b) OR type in the batch file commands as shown…

cd /usr/lib
wget --passive-ftp ftp://smurfette.trifocus.net/pub/libeq/i386/linux/libEQ.a
cd /seq
wget --passive-ftp http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
wget --passive-ftp http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
rpm -ivh qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[email protected] :/cvsroot/seq
cvs login
cvs checkout showeq
cd showeq
export QTDIR=/opt/qt-gcc3-2.3.2
export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export CXX=g++3
export CC=gcc3
make -f Makefile.dist
./configure
make
make install

+++ the seq.txt includes a copy comand for showeq.conf which no longer exists. Rather than upload a new copy, just ignore this error message if you happen to see it. Next edit I'll fix it, but just deal with it till then - TGF

9) Showeq will take awhile to compile, go watch a move or learn how to play guitar.

10) Edit your /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.xml to include your options you deem handy.

Congratulations! It should now be installed if you got no errors.
To run it type...

showeq

Happy SEQing

[tgf]

On the install listing please note the 3 on

gcc3
gcc3-c++

and

libstdc++3
libstdc++3-devel

there are gcc without the 3 and you do NOT want thoes

[cmore]

I have been working on RH 7.1, and can verify that you DONT want the versions without the '3' in them. They are too different. My mistake was going to an ftp site and into directories under 7.1 for the RPMs, which didnt have the '3' RPMs and installing the non-'3' ones instead. Everything will work until you try to compile SEQ, at which time I started getting errors, like it couldnt find deque.h. deque.h simply isn't there using the non-'3' updated rpms. Instead go under the 7.2 directory on the ftp servers and get the '3' versions. I am still in the process, since I am now obsessed with Linux and don't want to go the 'easy' route of just getting a 7.2 copy and starting over, but have more and more confidence that I will be able to get where I am going.

BTW, for more than 10 years I have been programming, and except for one install of a linux-on-windows haven't looked at linux until recently. I LOVE linux for technical stuff. A good example of why is the CVS. Compared to MS's Visual Source Safe, it is WAY more stable and less bug ridden. And it is just THERE, you don't have to go out and pay lots of money and go through a nightmarish install process and integration to get it to work. Yeah, VSS has a lot of neat ideas, like integration with Visual Studio for 'automatic' graphical source control, check out, check in. But it's buggy and microsoft's security 'features' constantly drive me nuts. I could go on for a while about the security thing. Heck, I spent almost 2 hours with MS tech support on a specific security issue regarding linked servers in MSSQL, and how NT/SQL security worked with it, then the very thing I spent all that time on making sure it was the way it was and was gauranteed I would have to work around it in the future (per the tech support), the next version fixed what they called a 'feature' and I called a 'bug' to work right. Then a month later I found out there were yet more 'but..'s to their fix of it. Security with microsoft is just frustrating as hell.

Linux/Unix has been around so long, I think it just has had a chance to grow and mature as is needed and as is appropriate. The core functionalities that are used by programmers are very sound. I like that. With microsoft it's like making an investment in someone else's 'crystal ball' of the way things should be, without going through testing-over-time under real usage to mature the assumptions that their models are based off of. I compare it to writing software based on vapor-ware (undefined and or constantly changing) functionalities. Horribly frustrating.

Rant, rant, whine, complain.. hehe.

[confuzed]

I followed your instructions to the letter, including a completely fresh install of RH 7.2. the following is what i receive after doing the bash seq.txt

it logs into CVS, downloads seq and then gets to the ./configure && make part...here is what i get....

checking for Qt... no
>> Unable to locate your QT includes...
configure: error: Please verify your QT devel install!
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.

any help or advice?

[Yendor]

1) did you install zaphod's qt RPM (or otherwise compile one yourself)

2) are you using showeq4 ("showeq" module, not
"linux" module from CVS).

I am guessing 2 if you think you followed all the instructions to the letter.

[Tristan469]

I had a quick look thru his install guide and I noticed that he didn't put the instructions in to install the qt rpms that he downloaded... anyhow, try this:

8b) OR type in the batch file commands as shown…
cd /usr/lib
wget http://doomed.to/showeq/libEQ.a
cd /seq
wget http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
wget http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
*added this*
rpm -ivh qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
*end addition*
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[email protected] :/cvsroot/seq
cvs login
cvs checkout showeq
cd showeq
export QTDIR=/opt/qt-gcc3-2.3.2
export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export CXX=g++3
export CC=gcc3
make -f Makefile.dist
./configure
make
make install
cp /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf.dist /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf

I hope this solves your problem..

Cheers!

[ickymo2]

Everything working until I actually come to the ./configure command. After putting that in I get an error saying I do not have a QT Meta Object Compiler (MOC). Unable to find a moc binary anywhere on system.
At the end it tells me I may be able to eliminate the error by typing:
export MOC='updatedb && locate moc | grep bin/moc'
When I try this however and next do a, make install, and it tell me, make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
Any thoughts?
I would appreciate any assistance guys. Great post guys. Thanks again, Johnny

[Yendor]

moc is part of qt, did you actually install the qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm and qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm packages

(ie Tristan's step 8b)

[tgf]

Your absolutely correct Tristan, thanks!!!!!

I have updated the above instructions AND the seq.txt file so should work fine. In my testing I already had it rpm'ed so I didn't catch it. I will re-do the whole instruction thing from scratch to make sure.

If you get the MOC error (as I did using the wrong location of the qt files) you probably dont have the qt-gcc3 rpm'ed or you mistyped the

export QTDIR=/opt/qt-gcc3-2.3.2

This will result in the compile not seeing the QT correctly and give this error (ask me how I know. It only took me 2 days to figger that out, but then again, I am not a programer type). For a quick check you can type echo $QTDIR and it will give you what the value is (note it is case sensitive)

[ickymo2]

Thats probably what I did guys. Went back and retyped it and it worked wonderfully. Thanks again for great instructions.

[Joe]

FYI:

The final line in your script

cp /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf.dist /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf

Is missing from your seq.txt file

Users must execute that command manually.

[Fluffy]

I compiled this all by hand I dont like RPM's I just dont trust them. But I gave this link to my friend who has NO CLUE about Linux and he called me to tell me he has it all working with no problem. I just thought I would bust some props to you for doing the populas a huge step up!

Fluffy

[tgf]

Here is updated seq.txt. I added the line at the end and hope it works. When making a batch file you need to add the cr at the end of each line which windoze notpad has problems with stating clearly. It looked good on my screen anyway (simply cut and pasted the cr from an above line. Anywho, try this version and if it fails on the showeq.conf copy do it manually like the instructions say to do. :D

I too am a little leary about "non-official" code. That is why my instructions/batch use the distribution rpms. Also my rpms are pulled off a site that is posted by one of the seq developers, Zaphod

http://seq.sourceforge.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204

If that isn't "safe" none of seq is...

Besides if your REALLY into it, all of seq is open source so you can dig as deeeeeep and you want to satisfy your curiosity. I am amazed at what I know now about seq and EQ from digging. I almost didn't post this because it makes it almost "to easy", but then again, I am a hard core EQer and would really rather spend my time playing than code busting. I know there are other out there too that time is precious so I did post this in the interest of modern civilization and the wheel. Ramble ramble ramble on and on and on.

Anyway, I would like to take this advertisement time to once again thank Zaphod and Yendor for their support! You guys Rule!

TGF

[E\/i|_2\^/iN]

tgf, Tristran, nice work on this help page. It got me through everything! I just wanted to bump this and keep it up there for all the other people struggling with the new seq updates.

EviL2wiN

[shadowcat]

I was also very impressed with this. I have set up SEQ 4.0 with various instructions but this was the easiest. In fact, I did this one just because I had the time to reformat a drive and start from scratch.

Very nicely done.

[YAN]

Hi guys, I have gotten quite far into the install, but it seems to be dying on make.

I started with a fresh install of 7.2. I selected the individual packages (pretty much selected the entire categories.

I have checked all of the listed rpms (rpm -q) and they are all in place. I installed the qt files above correctly.

Install gets to about here and then falters...

checking for libz... no
checking for X... no
configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop

I'm sure this isn't that complicated hehe...what am I missing?

[Yendor]

YAN, you are missing XFree86-devel and zlib-devel at the very least. Both are listed in the first message in this thread as being needed.

[YAN]

both XFree86-devel, Xfree86-libs and zlib-devel are installed. Infact I individually checked (rpm -q) each package listed above...and all are installed. I reran the install and got the same result. Any thoughts?

YAN

[Yendor]

post the end of your config.log file

[YAN]

Here is the config.log file. Sorry to include the whole tamale...but I don't really know what is important in it. Thanks. YAN


This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

configure:790: checking host system type
configure:811: checking target system type
configure:829: checking build system type
configure:866: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:919: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:976: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:1022: checking for working aclocal
configure:1035: checking for working autoconf
configure:1048: checking for working automake
configure:1061: checking for working autoheader
configure:1074: checking for working makeinfo
configure:1088: checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles
configure:1117: checking for gcc3
configure:1151: checking for g++3
configure:1187: checking for supported compiler version
configure:1221: gcc3 -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1373: checking for gcc
configure:1486: checking whether the C compiler (gcc3 ) works
configure:1502: gcc3 -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1528: checking whether the C compiler (gcc3 ) is a cross-compiler
configure:1533: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:1542: gcc3 -E conftest.c
configure:1561: checking whether gcc3 accepts -g
configure:1597: checking for c++
configure:1629: checking whether the C++ compiler (g++3 ) works
configure:1645: g++3 -o conftest conftest.C 1>&5
configure:1671: checking whether the C++ compiler (g++3 ) is a cross-compiler
configure:1676: checking whether we are using GNU C++
configure:1685: g++3 -E conftest.C
configure:1704: checking whether g++3 accepts -g
configure:1753: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1770: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1787: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:1808: gcc3 -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:1868: checking for working const
configure:1922: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1955: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:2008: checking whether ln -s works
configure:2029: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:2056: checking for Cygwin environment
configure:2072: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure: In function `main':
configure:2068: `__CYGWIN32__' undeclared (first use in this function)
configure:2068: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
configure:2068: for each function it appears in.)
configure: failed program was:
#line 2061 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"

int main() {

#ifndef __CYGWIN__
#define __CYGWIN__ __CYGWIN32__
#endif
return __CYGWIN__;
; return 0; }
configure:2089: checking for mingw32 environment
configure:2101: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure: In function `main':
configure:2097: `__MINGW32__' undeclared (first use in this function)
configure:2097: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
configure:2097: for each function it appears in.)
configure: failed program was:
#line 2094 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"

int main() {
return __MINGW32__;
; return 0; }
configure:2198: checking for ld used by GCC
configure:2266: checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld
GNU ld version 2.11.90.0.8 (with BFD 2.11.90.0.8)
configure:2283: checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files
configure:2295: checking for BSD-compatible nm
configure:2333: checking how to recognise dependant libraries
configure:2506: checking for object suffix
configure:2512: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:2532: checking for executable suffix
configure:2542: gcc3 -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:2573: checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output
configure:2649: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:2652: /usr/bin/nm -B conftest.o | sed -n -e 's/^.*[ ]\([ABCDGISTW][ABCDGISTW]*\)[ ][ ]*\(\)\([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\)$/\1 \2\3 \3/p' > conftest.nm
configure:2703: gcc3 -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c conftstm.o 1>&5
configure:2749: checking for dlfcn.h
configure:2759: gcc3 -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:2927: checking for ranlib
configure:2994: checking for strip
configure:3230: checking for objdir
configure:3257: checking for gcc3 option to produce PIC
configure:3409: checking if gcc3 PIC flag -fPIC works
configure:3423: gcc3 -c -g -O2 -fPIC -DPIC conftest.c 1>&5
configure:3475: checking if gcc3 static flag -static works
configure:3490: gcc3 -o conftest -g -O2 -static conftest.c 1>&5
configure:3517: checking if gcc3 supports -c -o file.o
configure:3536: gcc3 -c -g -O2 -o out/conftest2.o conftest.c 1>&5
configure:3565: checking if gcc3 supports -c -o file.lo
configure:3581: gcc3 -c -g -O2 -c -o conftest.lo conftest.c 1>&5
configure:3630: checking if gcc3 supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions
configure:3643: gcc3 -c -g -O2 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -c conftest.c conftest.c 1>&5
configure:3670: checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries
configure:4286: checking how to hardcode library paths into programs
configure:4314: checking whether stripping libraries is possible
configure:4328: checking dynamic linker characteristics
configure:4714: checking if libtool supports shared libraries
configure:5207: checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in
configure:5214: gcc3 -c -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:5227: gcc3 -shared conftest.o -v -Wl,-soname -Wl,conftest -o conftest 2>&1 | grep -lc >/dev/null 2>&1
configure:5814: checking for supported libc version
configure:5837: g++3 -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.C 1>&5
configure:6041: checking for extra includes
configure:6072: checking for extra libs
configure:6106: checking for libz
configure:6132: gcc3 -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lz 1>&5
configure:6125:17: zlib.h: No such file or directory
configure: In function `main':
configure:6128: `ZLIB_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function)
configure:6128: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
configure:6128: for each function it appears in.)
configure: failed program was:
#line 6123 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"

#include<zlib.h>

int main() {
return (zlibVersion() == ZLIB_VERSION);
; return 0; }
configure:6194: checking for X
configure:6261: gcc3 -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:6257:27: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
configure: failed program was:
#line 6256 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
#include <X11/Intrinsic.h>
configure:6337: gcc3 -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lXt 1>&5
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXt
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6330 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"

int main() {
XtMalloc()
; return 0; }

[Yendor]

Well it claims that zlib.h (zlib-devel rpm) and libXt (XFree86-libs) are not available.

Does the file /usr/include/zlib.h exist?
Does /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so exist?

[YAN]

libXt.so.6 and libXt.so.6.1 are both present, but zlib.h is not.

However when I test for the RPMS with
rpm -q zlib
zlib-1.1.3-24 (shows up)

and with
rpm -q zlib-devel
zlib-devel-1.1.3-24 (shows up)

What do I need to do? (btw thanks for your quick responses)

YAN

[Yendor]

dunno, uninstall the rpm and reinstall maybe

[YAN]

Well I found the missing file and copied it to the folder you mentioned....then reran the install...got the same result.

[Yendor]

well it's going to be more than a single file from each package that is needed. your config.log will now be a little different.

you should try to find out why the files are missing rather than just try to replace them. it's just going to keep haunting you if packages are not properly installed for some reason.

[jimmy6154]

Ok I'm not a Linux person at all or a computer person for that matter so please bare with me. I get to the part of the login server. You write that when your prompt for the password to just it enter and the batch file will continue. Well I hit enter and nothing happens, the server just times out. I've even tried to type what you wrote but it timed out on me. Thanks in advance.

[YAN]

Well, Zaphod's QT didnt work for me...or other things that I screwed up during my install attempts flubbed it (highly likely). Any way, after making sure I had all the righ RPMs, I installed QT the old fashioned way, and everything works now.

Thanks for all of your help guys, SEQ4 rocks!

YAN (Yet Another Newbie)

[jimmy6154]

Well I still have no idea what your talking about I have followed many guides but nothing seems to work. I'm still getting stuck at the Pserver login.Nothing happend. I have no Idea what QT is and wouldn't know it if errerd on me. What do I need to do.
Please post it in dumbass terms.) The script was a great thing but ust does not seem to work for me. Helpppp... Thanks in advance I hope to get it going soon.

[tgf]

Jimmy, If'n you type in the "export=CVSROOT=:pserver:...."

Nothing SHOULD happen

If'n you type in "cvs login"
it should display "logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs..."
and you should get "CVS password:"

This is where you just hit enter but nothing will happen still till you type "cvs checkout showeq"

that should kick off the copying of the showeq files to a subdirectory of "showeq"

If this is not happening, the easiest thing to screw up is the export statement....

Hope that helps!

[jimmy6154]

tfg,


Thanks yup my export line is correct. and everything is correct. I'm thinking its and issue with my firewall. Does anyone know what port "export" goes out through? If I ve to enable this I might need to enable more ports to go out for SEQ to work. ANy feedback here is much appriciated.

Thanks
jim

[Madd]

that really helped thanks

[Cryonic]

export is not a program, it is the shell variable setter for the bash shell. It is a builtin function, same with help.

so, running "export SHELL=..." doesn't go out any port.

[Cryonic]

Rawhide version of RH has QT 2.3.2 rpms configured with the -thread option. Might save people with older slower systems (like me) who don't want to waste hours compiling it and then have to compile SEQ.

Also means you don't have to trust any rpms other than those coming from RH.

[Diesel]

This post was amazing... flew through the install.

Thanks

[Reaper]

I get a 'command dose not exit' message when I use the wget command any idea why?

Don't bother flaming me for being a n00b... I'm fire proofed.

[Cryonic]

hmm, well, 'command does not exist' is pretty self explanatory. wget is not installed, so wget command does not exist. Install it.

[Reaper]

You wouldn't happen to know which rpm it's in would you?

[Cryonic]

just a guess, but the wget rpm.

[Sparkz]

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for posting your instructions here. I couldn't have done it without your help.
:D YOU ARE MY HERO :D
C'ya ~n~ EQ :p

[jbjam]

Thanks a mil for this handy little walk thru, I really appriciate it! as im sure alot of people do!

[StarZman]

Great post.... Got me up and running in less than 2 hours.

[Brezer]

This post is awesome. Iam a complete linux N00B and you have helped me out increadibly, ty so much :D

[dnwurtz]

BUMP----Great Guide

[mysticdrew]

It gives me an error 404 for libEQ.a not found!

[Sparkz]

well then go down load libEQ.a...........

[mysticdrew]

I am looking for it atm.

[Sparkz]

try here www.brinkster.com (http://www27.brinkster.com/blueadept/) :D

[Sparkz]

BuMp :D

[Serresrelic]

Eh, I'm very much a newb when it comes to Linux. I followed the instructions no problem, and got it to compile no prob. The problem is when I run the program it doesn't seem to detect the EQ client. When I start it up I notice the following error, which apparently doesn't keep the program from starting up, but I have a feeling this may be the reason it isn't working right:

"Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."

Any ideas what the heck I did wrong?

[fryfrog]

probably you are using a switch and not a real hub. try doing "tcpdump -i eth0 | grep <insert ip of eq box>"

you should see more than JUST broadcast traffic... like, if you browse to a web page on the eq box you should see a LOT of packets from that website...

also, you can manually specify the ip in the showeq.conf file OR by using --ip-address=<ip address of eq box>

[JackBlack]

I've been using Seq from the start and this is the first time I've run into an error that I couldn't fix by either reloading Linux or reading someone elses posts.
Anyhow it's a scratch install of RH 7.2 workstation with all the development packages installed. I did the autoupdate crap to bring Kernel and everything up to speed. I then install Zaphods GCC rpms from doomed.to/showeq.
Makefile runs fine and then ./configure stops at this point...

checking alternate compiler for supported compiler version... no
configure: error: You need at least GCC G++ 3.0 or greater to compile ShowEQ

Now I should have GCC3's installed unless for some reason it didn't take. I also double checked that all my export commands were to the right directories. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[fryfrog]

use "rpm -qa | grep <stuff>" to make sure you have the gcc3 rpms installed. also, if they ARE try doing "exporg CC=gcc3" and "export CXX=g++3" before hand (or what ever your gcc/g++-3.0.1 is called).

[JackBlack]

I'm getting this on :rpm -qa | grep gcc3
qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1
qt-gcc3-designer-2.3.2-1
qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1
qt-gcc3-Xt-2.3.2-1
qt-gcc3-static-2.3.2-1

Here's the varibles I setup before running ./configure

export QTDIR=/opt/qt-gcc3-2.3.2
export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export CXX=g++3
export CC=gcc3

I've triple checked and the right QTdir path is /opt/qt-gcc3-2.3.2

It seems like it's not pointing to the right place.

[Cryonic]

notice how all the rpms start with qt. Those are QT LIBS that were compiled with gcc3, you DON'T HAVE gcc3 and g++3 installed.

[Serresrelic]

Originally posted by fryfrog
probably you are using a switch and not a real hub. try doing "tcpdump -i eth0 | grep <insert ip of eq box>"

you should see more than JUST broadcast traffic... like, if you browse to a web page on the eq box you should see a LOT of packets from that website...

also, you can manually specify the ip in the showeq.conf file OR by using --ip-address=<ip address of eq box>

I've asked a couple other Linux friends and they seem to be as baffled as me. Someone told me that error was ssh related, anyways it never came up again, so I don't think the error message had anything to do with it.

However, seq is still not seeing the eq session on the other machine.

To address your post: Yes it is a regular hub, not a switch. I could set the ip manually, but it is a dynamic ip grabbed through dhcp, so I really don't feel like manually going in and setting the ip everytime I start up my windows box. Wall jack > DSL modem > HUB > Windows box and Linux Box, that is how the set up is. The other weird thing, and I am not sure how I missed this package, but tcpdump is not recognized. I get a "command not found" error when i try to use it. So I am not sure if that is included in a package that is vital to running seq or not, but now I just need to find out what rpm tcpdump is in and install it. I'm not sure if that will change a thing, but it is very strange indeed.

[high_jeeves]

tcpdump is in libpcap, isnt it? You are trying to run it as root, arent you? It is in /usr/sbin usually, so you shouldnt try to run it as a non-priviledged user... You are trying to run ShowEQ as root, right?

--Jeeves

[Serresrelic]

Yeah, I've been running everything as root.

[Cryonic]

tcpdump is not in the libpcap library, it is in its own rpm, aptly named tcpdump-<version>.rpm.

[high_jeeves]

Ahh.. i stand corrected... I must be thinking of the winpcap equivalent... Of course, typing in one rpm query to validate this, would have been too much work for me before I posted ;)

--Jeeves

[Meggatraveller]

Okay, I have installed RH 7.2
I have installed qt 2.3.2
I have installed libEQa

I run make install on showeq and I get the following errors:
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lEQ
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
makep1[: *** [showeq] Error 1
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

I ran "make install 1>/tmp/showeq.1 2>/tmp/showeq.2 and what is above is from .2, which is stderr

Anyone have a clue here?

--Meggatraveller

[Cryonic]

did you verify the md5sum of the libEQ.a?

[Meggatraveller]

I downloaded libEQ.a

according to various directions it says download it from
ftp://smurfette.trifocus.net/pub/libeq/i386/linux/libEQ.a

which has a md5sum value of
4e9d9772132fc63ea8860cc2fdb2905d libEQ.a

This file was copied to /usr/lib/

--Meggatraveller

[Meggatraveller]

Okay, one set of instructions say to put qt in /usr/local another says in /usr/lib

With Red Hat 7.2 SEQ will compile correctly if QT is in /usr/lib.

Therefore, I got it compiled... tomorrow i'll see if it really works!

Thanks all for the help!

--Meggatraveller

[Sparkz]

:D BUMP

[nxxk]

when i run
tcpdump -i eth0 | grep 121.111.2.1(my EQ box ip)
but it show

tcpdump: WARNING: eth0: no IPv4 adress assigned
tcpdump: listening on eth0

& than nthing to work
what's wrong with me??
tell me please..
i use hub to connect eq box & showeq box
i'm sure my hub not a switch hub
& my winxp can ping linux
but linux ping winxp can't find it
i have already trun off winxp firewall

[Newbie's_corpse]

YOU ARE MY HERO !!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[tjbrueg]

Just want to add my thanks for the instructions!:D

The only problem encountered was the LIBeq.a file was not found at the URL listed in the seq.txt file. This was solved by copying the file to the /usr/lib prior to 'bashing' the seq.txt file.

Thanks Again

[Zeppo]

Ok, stupid question:

Which of the many ways to upgrade is the correct one to use if you followed this install guide?

This is what I used to use, but does not seem to work with this install.

$ make distclean
$ cvs -z3 update
$ make -f Makefile.dist
$ ./configure && make
$ make install

But I could be doing something wrong.
Thanks,

[Cambik]

This worked great for me......thanks for the info. I had a little trouble the first time since it did not download the libEQ.a file fromt he site that was suggested and then after doing it after the fact and then trying to bash it still didn't work. So since this is only being used for SEQ I just reinstalled and then made sure I got that file and then ran the bash and it worked great with no errors.

[fryfrog]

Originally posted by Serresrelic


I've asked a couple other Linux friends and they seem to be as baffled as me. Someone told me that error was ssh related, anyways it never came up again, so I don't think the error message had anything to do with it.

However, seq is still not seeing the eq session on the other machine.

To address your post: Yes it is a regular hub, not a switch. I could set the ip manually, but it is a dynamic ip grabbed through dhcp, so I really don't feel like manually going in and setting the ip everytime I start up my windows box. Wall jack > DSL modem > HUB > Windows box and Linux Box, that is how the set up is. The other weird thing, and I am not sure how I missed this package, but tcpdump is not recognized. I get a "command not found" error when i try to use it. So I am not sure if that is included in a package that is vital to running seq or not, but now I just need to find out what rpm tcpdump is in and install it. I'm not sure if that will change a thing, but it is very strange indeed.

your problem is VERY likely to be pppoe. pppoe modifies packet structure, so while everything can surf and play eq okay... seq does NOT recognize the pppoe encoded packets as eq packets. try getting a device that would go between your dsl modem and your network (such as a dsl/cable router or a linux distro w/ two network cards doing nat).

[Hawkeyez]

I've tried re running this script to get seq back up and going, but all it does is start like it should be looking for the packets, but just sits there, has this guide been updated for the new patch/cvs update as of may 8th/9th??

Hawk

[tgf]

Sorry all, for the lack of updates here. I got it working and made this writeup way back and have hand no real problems for a few months. I am amazed at all your kind kudos. Thanks back at you for your appreciation.

Anywho, I have updated the seq.txt file and the instructions to pull the libEQ.a from the recomended source in the latest README.libEQ file. I am compiling it as I write this so will see if it works, altough confidence is high based on other posts. I run my Showeq on a crappy Dell P166 with 64Mb of memory so my compiles take a while, but it is a testament as to how low you can go.

-TGF

PS. Currently learning how to play guitar AND taking my monthly bath while the hampster spins the little wheel in the Dell.

"DUDE, your going to Dell" :D

[tgf]

Update: Works like a charm on my end.

[Hobo]

I was going to use the install guide posted at HQ as I had used it once before. Since HQ is down I tried this one. Let me say that this method is disgustingly EASY. An excellent guide that worked perfect without ANY problems. Grats tgf and thank you.



Hobo

[eqcracker]

I must say that for a Linux person that knows just enough to be dangerous, you all are lifesavers(or time savers). I have used seq for a long time, mainly cause without it I'm LOST. Use it to get around new zones or even familar ones and avoid those nasty reds.

I just complided it remotely with NO errors and can't wait to get home and see if it is actually working again !!!

PLEASE, keep up the awesome work.

[johnqpublic11]

I'm running the seq.txt file: everything goes fine, no errors, until the ./configure -- i'm told i need gcc g++ 3.0 or greater

does the earlier portion of the batch install that? i thought it did.

i'm no linux guru.

this is a redhat 7.2 complete install.

it's also running odinseye for DAoC.

any tips appreciated. thanks

[Saikon]

http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
don't seem to work anymore for the location of these two rpms, does anyone know anywhere else I could get them?

Hehe after a bit of fun with the search button I found them at ftp://azriel.trifocus.net/pub/redhat

Thanks
yup I'm a noob

[Mr. Suspicious]

You tried to get them via --passive ftp from doomed.to?

[Saikon]

I tried Getting them via the batch file tgf supplied and going to the website... This is my first time really doing anything with Linux so i don't really know how to do things.

[Zaphod]

Please update all links refering to:
http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm to refer to http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm to refer to http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php


In your scripts please change the lines:

wget http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm
wget http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm

to be:

wget --passive-ftp http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
wget --passive-ftp http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php


The reason for this is that I've put in a couple php scripts that will balance requests between a few servers, some of which may be ftp servers. These two RPM's currently represent between 8GB and 16GB of traffic to my site each month (so far for May the tally is 9,956,554KB even with the downtime during the site changes).

tgf, please update your post and script accordingly.

Thanks and Enjoy,
Zaphod (dohpaZ)

[tgf]

I made the changes Zaphod. Works just fine now on my end.

This should help you now JohnQ, if you didn't already get the quick fix from Saikon.

Continued thanks as well for an GREAT timesaver and your other contributions to SEQ! Sorry you had to make the change, but it is a testament to the usefulness.

TGF

[Zoomzoom]

Let me give kudos to you Tgf and Zaphod and all that made this walkthrough. Works great! Thanks a bunch!

[madmocasin]

after many failed trys at someone elses install i tryed this one. After i install all the packages you sugest to install and reboot, my bootloader (grub) goes into some sorta hidden config feature and wont load linux. I have had linux running and was one step from getting seq running now i am back to install and having a prob. Anyone have any idea why i am having this problem, if this isnt what is suposed to happen when i try to boot into linux.

well i found a way around this but now i am getting an error on the final line, no such file or directory exists, and i have done it twice and checked spelling. Anyone sugestions?

[Divident]

I followed the steps completely untill i got to the part where it says export CVSROOT=server:[email protected]:/cvsroot/seq

cvs login

and then it gives me some error about cvs [login aborted]: Bad CVSROOT.

I am running RedHat 7.2 and im pretty new to linux and not experinced with the cvs command. If somone could help me out i would be greatly thankful.

[Divident]

Ahh my bad i found the problem that stupid :p smily face screwed me up hehe thanks anyways!

[TDES]

Great walk through ... thanks Zaphod for the updated script.

Problem: used walk through ..everything was perfect.

Had to start from scratch .. partition drive .. etc.

After install .. cannot find showeq.conf (file doesn't exist)

deleted and started again .. same problem. Any thoughts ?

cp /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf.dist /usr/local/shareshoweq/showeq.conf <-- file or directory not found (dir is there .. no file)

Any help greatly appreciated.

[Cryonic]

RTFAB: Read The F***in Announcements Board. or read the Changes file or the Install.newbies file.

[TDES]

Doh-

I'm sure it's frustrating answering n00b questions, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

[Divident]

I followed the instructions completly even got the new files but when i get to ./configure and its checking everything it says Workable : {YES} and then RIGHT after that i get a moc error.. i then try to do make or make install and it says cannot find makefile even though i did type make -f Makefile.dist right before all of this. Anyone got any ideas about the moc error? Right after my computer turned the screen off and it wont turn back on unless i restart. So once i do find this moc file where do I start to get this up and running? Thanks

[Divident]

I also did Tristans 8b but i think i might have accidently done -Uhv before because when i tried to do -ihv it said the files were already installed.. anyway to overrite? thanks

[HFB]

k well I am stuck....

I got my cable modem hooked into my Linksys Router, I got my Windows Xp hooked into my Linksys Router, and my Redhat linux box hooked into my Linksys Router.

i tired doing that tcpdump -i eth0 | grep ipaddress

but i get nothing from that, just says tcpdump: listening on eth0
just sits there

All my other computers are working fine on the internet, but linux will not get any packets from the computer I am playing EQ on while I run ShowEQ on the linux box.

I been trying for 7 hrs and cannot get it to work. anything have any suggestions at all.

[high_jeeves]

The one thing you apparently forgot to do is search the boards... try searching for "linksys router" or just "router", your answer will appear (in about 500 other threads where it is already answered)...

Its amazing that you spent 7 hours on this, and didnt spend 1 minute searching the boards for your answer...

--Jeeves

[HFB]

I YES I did read all the boards were people had there problems and I still cannot get it to work, I tried going from Hub to router, vise versa and everything else. Will not just work !

[high_jeeves]

Your linksys router WILL NOT WORK! A liksys hub WILL NOT WORK! You need to get a real hub, and hook it up... ROUTERS DO NOT BROADCAST TRAFFIC!!!! Your machines MUST both be on a real hub, at the same speed... There are 100 threads on networking, find one, and follow the instructions... Or atleast post information in a thread on networking, instead of RedHat 7.2 installation...

--Jeeves

[Guygin]

I have been lurking on this board and searching these threads for some time now. I know absolutely nothing about Linux, or what 'open source project' even meant a few months ago. I learned quickly from other's mistakes; and that 'The search button is my friend' - no truer words exist for this project. I finally decided to jump in and give it a go - obtained the proper Red Hat product, then followed the meticulous research of the regulars here, as well as the well intended straight forward - in your face responses to some of the posts.
Folks, first of all, this project could have no peers; what a wonderful tool! Second, the posts from the regulars ( too many to name them all - but you know who you are) are simply invaluable - what more could anyone need?
By following your advice, it took roughly 20 mins to install a clean Red Hat 7.2, and another 20 mins or so to do the rest. I was soon sitting in my chair with my mouth open, staring at what I had been missing. You have done excellent work! - Many thanks!:D

[AlphaBeta]

Well I am the nice one <smurk>

Hun, your hub is most likley a router and labled a HUB. Most places don't sell real HUB's anymore and just take out a few of the router goodies and call it a HUB is what they are trying to tell ya.

You need to find yourself a real hub that broadcasts the data to all the ports like a real HUB should.

Good luck they are hard to find but you might find one if you "SEARCH" for them.

LOL Sorry couldn't help myself.. I think they are rubbing of on me eeak.

[marlboro]

Bump!
Thank you guys i followed this step by step and showeq loaded up no probs working great

[AlexJ213]

Redhat 7.2 and everythign works great up until I do this step

cp /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf.dist /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.conf

When I type that in it says file not found. Logged in as root. No problems with anything else what coudl be going wrong?

[high_jeeves]

Yes, you didnt read the announcements board, or search before posting... try doing that...

--Jeeves

[tgf]

Sorry, I fixed the post to update that about the lack of a showeq.conf in the CVS. It is an idiots guide, but quite honestly, I didn't know they switched to the XML version myself :D Anyway, that'll teach me.

-TGF

[blade518]

bump... this is helping me a ton.

[unknown_errors]

al i'm going to try and put all the info i can in this so that if one of you kind peep find it in your hearts to help out you'll know whats up

1)OS : mandrake 8.2

2)downloaded and insalled all RPMs listed in first post of this thread
(although when i installed the system many of these were per-installed)

3) running the seq.txt (bash seq.txt) works fine till this point
checking for g++3 gcc3
at that ponit i get this error message
to be honest not sure if this is even part of the error
checking alternate compiler for supported version... no
configure:error you need at least gcc g++ 3.0 or greater to compile showEQ
make:*** no targets specified and no makefile found. stop
make:*** no rule to make target 'install'. stop

well thats the bulljive
i know for a fact that i have gcc g++ 3.0.4 installed
any help with this issue would be great
thanks ahead of time

[high_jeeves]

Just follow the walkthrough.. you probably didnt specify your CC/CXX variables..

--Jeeves

[Propappr]

Well, at first I was very happy. Followed the walkthrough and had no problems installing showeq using the instructions in this thread. However, after trying to reinstall with a fresh install of Redhat 7.2 I received the same error that "unknown-errors" is getting. I have reinstalled 7.2 several times now and have made sure that I installed gcc-3 and gcc3-c++. I am just curious as to what may have changed from the install from just a few days ago that would have made this error occur now. I am by no means an expert on linux however I have been reading the posts and followed many of the suggestions mentioned here. And as mentioned everything worked perfectly the 1st time around. I have searched for gcc3 and gcc3-c++ and have had no luck in being able to determine what the problem might be. I know that I may get flamed, but it just bugs the heck out of me that the 1st time around no probs, then Wham. Oh well should not have tried to reinstall, that was my dumbass fault anyways. Was trying to configure the linux box as the gateway and messed everything up, lol. And said, hell it went fine the 1st time why should things be different. Oh well I finally broke down and bought a Netgear EN104tp and was hoping to be up and running by now.

Again the error I am getting is as follows:

2) downloaded and installed all RPMs listed in first post of this thread (although when i installed the system many of these were per-installed)

3) running the seq.txt (bash seq.txt) works fine till this point
checking for g++3 gcc3
at that point i get this error message to be honest not sure if this is even part of the error

checking alternate compiler for supported version... no
configure:error you need at least gcc g++ 3.0 or greater to compile showEQ
make:*** no targets specified and no makefile found. stop
make:*** no rule to make target 'install'. stop

Oh well, any help would be great. I really have tried to figure this out.

[Mr. Suspicious]

running the seq.txt (bash seq.txt)


Don't do that, just follow the line of commands that are listed in the INSTALL.newbies (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/seq/showeq/INSTALL.newbies?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup).

[Propappr]

Thanks, Ill try that right now. Thanks again.

[brian6244]

I tried EVERYTHING else on this board first (my mistake). Then I stumbled upon this post. I saved the seq.txt to the /seq dir that I created. Then I ran the batch file. I walked away for couple minutes (1.7gig CPU) and when I returned... BOOM!!!! Welcome to SEQ, up and running 100%!!!!

Thanks!

You da' man!

[Mr. Suspicious]

I tried EVERYTHING else on this board first (my mistake).

Yes, that's the common mistake people make, instead of reading the manual about how to install something, they try to install it right away without reading the manual. Then when that doesn't work for them (obviously) they still don't look in the manual, but go bother someone else with it. Ask questions without providing the correct and full information, get tips and help from people, that's not going to help him, because they assume the guy that's installing read the manual and followed it.

So yes: Read the Fucking manual (RTFM) IS valid help, and in 99% of all cases will help someone get his problem fixed in no-time.

[brian6244]

Heh, I think you misunderstood me. I read the manual FIRST. I read INSTALL and INSTALL.newbies from top to bottom 10 times. Thats what caused all my problems. tgf's batch file is what saved the day!

I probably should have been clearer but since my only purpose in posting here is to give kudos to tgf on his awsome batch file idea, I figure its not really a big deal.

[FirstBorn]

So, will 7.1 RH work with the above instructions? As I have a copy of that right now, otherwise I'll have to DL 7.2 and even with Cable its going to take some time.

[Dedpoet]

Get 7.2. It's worth the wait on the download and will save you a bunch of trouble during the install as you can just follow one of the guides. Use one of the mirrors and get the 2 ISO images. It won't take too long with cable.

[brian6244]

SEQ will work on RedHat versions as far back as 6.1 if you make the proper updates. Maybe earlier versions too but I have no first-hand knowledge of that.

However, even with that in mind, I agree 100% with the above reply. You will save yourself from a lot of pain if you just download 7.2 and then run the seq.txt batch file.

[Lost~N~Found]

What I have so far:
1) Equipment: PIII 450, 640 MRam, Linksys EtherFast Cable / DSL Router
2) Software: RH 7.2, showEQ, seq.txt, libEQ.a all installed
3) EQ is sharing from Main Computer

What is going on so far:
I run ShowEQ, Maps and Lindows are all opened. I can open Maps but no information is coming across.

From what I've read so far:
Is it my Linysys EtherFast Cable Router? or did I miss a step?
I've read this whole thread and most of the 1st page of ShowEQ Help Desk.

Throw me a bone people, where am I going wrong?

[high_jeeves]

Is it my Linysys EtherFast Cable Router? or did I miss a step?

Yes, please search for Linksys, or read the FAQ before posting.

--Jeeves

[Lost~N~Found]

You have to be joking me, This is a Help board. With the time it took you to write that, you could have said what I needed.
Help Board, means if your not going to help, Shut up.

[high_jeeves]

No, it does not. Help board is a place you can come look for help. That help (the EXACT answer to your question) can be found in the Intall Guide, FAQ or by searching. Instead of me spending my time answering a question that has already been answered 100 times here, YOU have to spend some of YOUR time trying to answer YOUR question before you waste everyone elses time.

RTFM is a perfectly valid answer, when the answer is already stated in the manual.

I strongly recommend you read the relevant sections in the smoothwall manual, on how to post questions on a help forum. They have an excellent writeup on how to conduct yourself before and while asking questions.

http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf

If you have any other problems, I recommend you search for, and read the various threads on this forum when people complain about the help they get. You will find that all of the people around here who supply answers, do not appreciate having their time wasted by people who wont try to answers questions themselves before posting.

--Jeeves

[Cobras]

[Let's play Follow the bouncing smileys]

:mad: I've tried to get both seq and sins working a half dozen times over the past couple months with no luck. I got tired of reading conflicting install instructions, and generally screwing with it, when I was losing quality EQ time... heh

:confused: For those still having problems, don't post a "here's the error I get" yet.... STOP, go back, read and follow the instructions exactly as they are written, and if need be, start over until it works. Because....

:eek: IT WORKS! (imagine that) This fact seems to get lost on people when they rant.... these instructions, if followed to the letter, work perfectly, and tons of people are running SEQ right now having followed exactly what's written here. You could do it 50 times in a row and it would work every time. There's very little to screw up here (other than reading 101) since this isn't hardware dependant. Sooo, if it doesn't work, start over, slow down, READ the instructions step-by-step and you'll be back playinkg EQ with SEQ to help within no time.




p.s.

:D Thanks tons for writing a real live "This is exactly how it's done" finally! Props to tgf and all who spent the time honeing what's here, and of course the devs for a program we all can't live without.

§Cobras§

[Kris Kringle]

*bump*

This is a wonderful guide

[Bugged]

I am very new to this...do try not to flame me too much. I followed all the directions...and got all the way to the point to where I was trying to start SEQ. I typed the command to try to start it and it said that " Bash: ./showeq: No such File or directory"

I am reasonable certain that I followed the direction completely because everything else worked perfectly. Any thoughts or help will be appreciated. Sorry if I seem like such a beginer.

[Cryonic]

Guess you missed a step, like changing directories.

did you 'make install', did you change directory to /usr/local/bin, did you do something else. I don't know since you only tell us what the last thing you did was that got that error.

updatedb && locate showeq

[Duckman]

Brand new install and only 2 hiccups.

1 The bash did not work (No big)

2 The libEQ.a location would not let me on for a long time.

Beyond that make sure you use

wget --passive-ftp http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
wget --passive-ftp http://www.doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php

Not

wget --passive-ftp http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm.php
wget --passive-ftp http://doomed.to/showeq/qt-gcc3-dev...-1.i386.rpm.php

Works like a champ on a p2 400 with 2 eq cliants.
:)
CJ:D

[tarquin]

There seems to be a problem logging in to retrieve the latest libEQ.a. As noted by the previous poster, the connection keeps timing out. I would suspect a DoS attack, as the machine appears to be up, but too busy to answer a connection request, even to simply refuse it.

[Mr. Suspicious]

Please, please, please... read the README.libEQ file that's found in your ShowEQ directory. There's several official sources to retrieve the LibEQ.a from.

[Leaflock]

Well, I'm picking up Linux for the first time and I just downloaded RH 7.3. Now, all of the RPMs listed above (most of them) I could not find in the packet selector. Now I'm wondering could it be because of RH being ver. 7.3 or if it was my system having to use the text installer because there was not enough RAM (I doubt thats the problem though). Also, if I happen to miss one of the RPMs how do I install it after I installed RH? I tried using serach for all these questions to no avail... thanks for the help in advance. :)

X-treme Linux N00b

[Leaflock]

Well, I'm picking up Linux for the first time and I just downloaded RH 7.3. Now, all of the RPMs listed above (most of them) I could not find in the packet selector. Now I'm wondering could it be because of RH being ver. 7.3 or if it was my system having to use the text installer because there was not enough RAM (I doubt thats the problem though). Also, if I happen to miss one of the RPMs how do I install it after I installed RH? I tried using serach for all these questions to no avail... thanks for the help in advance.

X-treme Linux N00b

[Cryonic]

Funny, all I did was search for redhat 7.3 and found:

http://seq.sourceforge.net/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=18529&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[Dedpoet]

If those posts in Cryonic's search don't help you, check out section 2.10 (http://www.macsrule.com/~seqfaq/seq-faq.html#2.10) of the FAQ. It recommends version 7.2 for a new user, as it is much easier to get Seq working on that version.

[cheese_poker]

Leaflock, try using www.rpmfind.net. Once I found this site, getting all the right RPM versions is cake.

[Willie]

OK i have folllowed instructions to the letter. but when i go to /usr/local/share/showeq/showeq.xml to edit i cannot find file. also tried to look for info in other guides and i tried to find showq.conf could not find it either any help would be appreciated.



Sincerely,
Newb

[Dedpoet]

Showeq.conf is no longer used. There is a question about that in the FAQ.

Showeq.xml may not be there yet if you haven't run the program. I'm not sure exactly what your problem is since you don't really say, but you shouldn't have to edit any configuration file at all. Just start the program, change all the window positions, settings, fonts, etc. to be how you like it, then do a File -> Save Preferences. This will create the .xml file. You could then look at or edit it if you wanted to, but there really is no need. Anything you need to change can be done in the GUI, and saving the preferences will make the necessary changes in the xml file.

[Willie]

ok i got i fixed that problem i did skip a step in fact now when i go to run showeq
[]# export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-2.3.2
[]# cd /usr/local/bin
[]# ./showeq eth0 --ip-address=My IP address

i get

showeq: cannot connect to X server

[Cryonic]

hmm, I'll hazard a guess and say that you don't have X running, so SEQ can't open the display to render itself.

[Willie]

As u said i am toatly newbie and i have no idea how to get X to run when i use X command. It starts to load and then i recieve an error message

Fatal server error:
no screens found


also just above this is
(EE) No devices detected.

[Dedpoet]

Willie, what distribution are you running? Are you looking at a windows-like environment when you're tryin to run seq, or are you at a just a text screen?

If it is the former, my guess is that you have some horrendous permissions problem. If it is the later, then you have done something wrong during your setup of Linux. Your distribution should have set up a Windows environment for you that starts automatically each time you log in. If that is not happening, you need to reinstall, making sure you select a desktop manager like Gnome or KDE when you select your other packages. Redhat and Mandrake also both check your monitor and video card and practically set X up for you with no effort.

Give us some clarification...we can't help you if you don't have Linux installed properly.

[Cryonic]

man Xconfigurator
man startx

Try those and do a little reading :)

[suprphrk]

bump, with comment

On my machine, running Redhat 7.2, the update was not working. During ./configure, I was getting "Something wicked happened when verifying your qt libs" or something like that. Was going to remove everything and start again, and I just happened to see this script. This works great (but really slow) to run kinda a "thorough update". I hadn't updated seq since March, and it was gettin kinda rough, so it was about time anyway.

All I added was:

in the beginning:
mkdir /usr/lib/seqbak
mv /usr/lib/libEQ.a /usr/lib/seqbak
mkdir /usr/local/lib/seqbak (some older versions wanted libEQ.a here)
mv /usr/local/lib/libEQ.a /usr/local/lib/seqbak
mkdir /usr/local/bin/seqbak
mv /usr/local/bin/show* /usr/local/bin/seqbak
mkdir /usr/local/share/seqbak
mv /usr/local/share/showeq /usr/local/share/seqbak

and changed the rpm line to:
rpm -ivh --replacepkgs qt-gcc3-2. (blah blah blah)

Also saved this as a script, chmod +x 'd it, and had him ftp to me to get it. In that file, I added:

right before the "cvs login":
echo In about 5 seconds, just press <ENTER>....

If anyone's interested in this complete clean/reinstall script, I can post it here. the good thing is that it makes a backup so that all of your filters, etc. can all be copied back. Mine were too full, so were my friends, so I didn't put the lines in to copy them back.

[Mr. Suspicious]

On my machine, running Redhat 7.2, the update was not working. During ./configure, I was getting "Something wicked happened when verifying your qt libs" or something like that.

AND

mkdir /usr/lib/seqbak
mv /usr/lib/libEQ.a /usr/lib/seqbak
mkdir /usr/local/lib/seqbak (some older versions wanted libEQ.a here)
mv /usr/local/lib/libEQ.a /usr/local/lib/seqbak


Notice how you move libEQ.a from 2 locations, note the names of the directories. Now also read the FAQ (http://www.macsrule.com/~seqfaq/seq-faq.html#2.8) and find:



2.8 - How do I get/update the libEQ.a file?
Read the README.libEQ file which is in your showeq dir.
# cd /usr/lib/
# wget --passive-ftp ftp://azriel.trifocus.net/pub/libeq/i386/linux/libEQ.a
You might keep your libEQ.a file in another location, if you do cd there instead. This file must be found only ONCE in your library path. That means do NOT put it in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib, but it is OKAY to have a copy in /root and /usr/lib.


Now, you tell us, why you've gotten that "Something wicked happened" error.

[fryfrog]

i have to say, good post mr.... but you missed the QT part ;)

what probably happened was that there is a more detailed check of qt now. if you compiled it with gcc-3.1 and then upgraded to gcc-3.1.1 (for instance) it MIGHT still work, but it would error out.

your solution would have been to simply re-compile the qt lib and then try to compile seq again.

yeah, and don't have the libeq.a file in two places. instead of just blindly putting mkdirs and mv commands into a script, you might want to use some if/then type statements to avoid doing something stupid on accident (like make a dir that doesn't ever end up with anything in it...)

[suprphrk]

Suspicious, you'll also note that I have:


mkdir /usr/lib/seqbak
mv /usr/lib/libEQ.a /usr/lib/seqbak
mkdir /usr/local/lib/seqbak (some older versions wanted libEQ.a here)
mv /usr/local/lib/libEQ.a /usr/local/lib/seqbak

I put that in there in case he had it in /usr/lib OR /usr/local/lib. And instead of (some older versions...) guess I should have clarified (some other sets of instructions...). Wrong choice of words. Guess I should have known there'd be people picking apart everything I typed in here...

What's the worst it's gonna do for having both mv statements in there? say that it's not found? big deal. any user that it bugs them to have empty folders in the directories should be smart enough to delete them, but I guess you never know.....

I DID only have libEQ.a on my pc once, it was talking about my qt libs. Before you flame, i suggest:

1. Read... "It's called reading... left to right, top to bottom. Take Tylenol for any headaches, Midol for any cramps."

2. Find out information, don't assume. "When you assume, you just make an ass of u and me."

But thanks for the input, I'll keep that in mind while I flame someone else. I'll take the post down though, guess nobody can try to help anyone in here without some flaming. I swear some people get off on it, and only read posts so they can flame.

As far as the qt libs, I found that some were truncated for some reason. My seq machine is on an old P2/300 with a 4GB hard drive. It may be failing, doesn't necessarily mean everyone's going to get this error.

[Rangon]

Here's a problem not seen yet...

Recently, I was living with friends of mine. We had a PDC and a Gateway in the house, both of them computers. We had a set of hubs and switches setup, and two of my computers were hooked up to one of the hubs. We got SEQ up and running perfectly. Everything was going just as it was supposed to with no errors...

Then I moved.

I now have a cable modem running into a linksys router. It's routed down into a hub. Both computers are plugged into said hub. Both see the internet, both ping each other... but SEQ refuses to see anything about the other computer's packets.

I've tried to check IP and MAC and 'next zone' settings. I have double checked ifconfig and route to make sure that everything's okay. I've even double checked the hub... and it's a hub. Everything should be working, but I can not figure out this problem.

Any ideas?

[Cryonic]

Your Hub ISN'T a hub. Either it is a switch, or it is a switching hub (in which case behavior depends on how things are hooked up to it).

tcpdump is your friend.

[Dedpoet]

Here's a problem not seen yet...

Search is also your friend, Rangon. This problem is seen at least 3 times a week here and the Help Desk forum is full of these threads. This topic is also covered in the FAQ (http://www.macsrule.com/~seqfaq/seq-faq.html).

Cryonic is most likely correct - your hub is probably a switch. Is the hub also a Linksys? If so, that is probably your problem. Most Netgear and D-Link hubs are real hubs, while most Linksys hubs are really switches. Read the box for your "hub" very carefully or do a google search on it and see what the description says. If it says "switch" or "switching hub" it will not work.

As a possible time saver for you, I used to use a Netgear EN104TP (10baseT true hub) and now use a D-Link DSH-5 (100baseT true hub). Both work when their uplink port is plugged into a normal port of a Linksys broadband router. I also just took a look and noticed that D-Link has replaced their 100MBit hub section on their website with "10/100 hubs with switch." Looks like it may have gotten harder to get a new D-Link true hub.

[Random Player]

Have to say, this post was the best thing I have ever read. It was concise, and to the point. I followed it to the tee and it worked great!

[Taro-kun]

how can you install the important 3.0 versions if you forgot to check them off during installation of Linux, or do i have to reinstall? Im very new to linux and such, great guide by the way!

[high_jeeves]

1) Dont post at the bottom of a thread that has nothing to do with your question.
2) Take a look at the user manual for your distribution, it will have information on how to install packages.

--Jeeves

[atarom]

Gotta bump this and commend you.... that's the greatest install guide i've seen =)

[atarom]

nt

[Angahran]

I'm installing Redhat 7.2 on my little laptop and I cant find some of the packages in the list

gdbm
glibc
glibc-common
zlib

I'm having to do an FTP install so I'm not getting the graphical install. I've been up and down the list of packages about a dozen times and can't see these ones :(

Anyone have any ideas or am I just blind ?

[Mag@@]

Having downloaded the ISO's and burned the CD's for 7.2, these packages are included; might save you some time and hastle if you have a CD burner. Good luck.

[Dedpoet]

You may be able to do your install without these, then go get the RPM's from www.rpmfind.net. Then just use the rpm command to install them before you start your seq install.

[Cryonic]

You can't complete the install without glibc. That would be like installing windows with no DLLs. No libraries means nothing runs.

Try to continue past that point in the install, it should pick up on the missing dependencies and ask if it should install those also (at least doing it from the CD [no GUI] does for me).

[elgringo]

bump :D

[EQ_old_fart]

I am not sure if the seq.txt that is on the first few pages still works even with the edits that seem to be needed after reading this thread. It seems to fail on the 2 new wget commands for me. I am mostly doing this as a learning exercise so I am not in a hurry and am now trying the newbie install instructions. If the seq.txt is out of date could those that have used it please help in getting one posted that is up to date and working?

I tried to do this but have limited knowledge in the Linux world. If there is nothing wrong with the seq.txt with the 2 needed edits already stated then please ignore this post as I will get it working at some point if that is the case.

I thank all for the help already posted here and in advance for any future help.

[Mr. Suspicious]

I am not sure if the seq.txt that is on the first few pages still works even with the edits that seem to be needed after reading this thread

No it doesn't work. *sigh*

Sorry, but it's one of my personal rants that this outdated Howto is still being bumped up. Use the Install.newbies (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/seq/showeq/INSTALL.newbies?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup) file (also conviniently found in your showEQ directory) instead of promoting a post that's outdated and gives people more problems then it does solve for them if they follow it to the T.


If the seq.txt is out of date could those that have used it please help in getting one posted that is up to date and working?

No, noone will, please read: http://seq.sourceforge.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1949 for more information about why not.

[gguz]

Problems plz help

read thru install and had no problem till i bash seq.txt and it got to point where it couldnt find rpm it needed "qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm " and " qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm " I have read others same issues and tried what was suggested and cant seem to find loc of these rpms altough i can go to links and find ftp and http sites with them listed there but the doomed site says file not found and the mirror wont let me log in annon for some reason. Is there another place to aquire these rpms and if so what easiest way to install them ! plz help Linux noob

[Cryonic]

Support for those choosing to install via the seq.txt file method is not available here. Please contact the creator/maintainer of the script for further assistance.

[Dedpoet]

I'm not really offering support either, as I don't know much about that file, but I read in another thread that the trifocus site is currently down. If that script is trying to get those rpm's from trifocus, that would explain it.

[Shukz]

Is there a users guide for installing SEQ that actually works?

[learningquick]

Originally posted by gguz
Problems plz help

couldnt find rpm it needed "qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm " and " qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm "

in the seq.txt you need to place a .php after the rpm. Seems the sight redirected these files to anoher site.

lq

[falkore]

Nevermind. I am going to Work on this more before I ask for help here.

[JinXer]

I read and followed to the letter the Install Guide at : http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/seq/showeq/INSTALL.newbies?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

I downloaded and installed QT without errors.

connected to CVS downloaded the SEQ files.

preformed the following:

cd /seq/showeq/
export CC=gcc3
export CXX=g++3
export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt-2.3.2
make -f Makefile.dist
./configure
(didn't get to make; make install)

recieved:

....massive text output...followed by...
checking for X... libraries /user/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for libXext... yes
checking for libpng.. -lpng -lz -lm
checking for Qt... yes
>> Found Version.: 2.3.2
>>> Headers........: /usr/lib/qt-2.3.2/include/
>>>> Libraries.....: /usr/lib/qt-2.3.2/lib/
configure: error: Something wicked happened while trying to validate your Qt installation!!! Please verify your libraries...


and as per Mr. Suspicious' advice I ensured that libEQ.a was in only one location /usr/lib. I seem to be having the same issue as suprphrk, trunicated files. I however am using a newer system, and the hard drive was tested before installing Linux. Is there anyway to correct this, or do I just need to recompile QT again and pray it doesn't reoccur?

[a86me]

were can i find a up to date walk through? with how to DL and install the new pop maps? i am a tard i had it working pre pop, and now it wont work would preferto do a clean installof showeq

[suprphrk]

Just reinstalled Linux 7.2.....

These 2 .rpm files ( qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm and qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm ) were AWESOME! But now, when I try to wget the files from http://doomed.to/... , they are not there. My computer can't even resolve doomed.to.

Does anyone still have these files laying around that they wouldn't mind sending to me? I can give you an ftp to put them on or an email address to send them to.

I can download and recompile each seperately, but these files were great, easy to use with 1 command line, (and used in the script I made to install it for myself).

Shoot me an email if you wouldn't mind and still have these 2 files.

[suprphrk]

JinXer,

I just reran the rpm -ivh --replacepkgs (blah blah)... and it worked ok after that.

The same hard drive tested fine before I reinstalled Linux on my new machine (see above).

[eqMAGE]

You guys rule. You don't get enough thanks for taking the time to help people who don't want to learn an entire OS just to have a decent automap in eq.

Pat yourselves on the back because I'm too far away to do it!

[suprphrk]

FYI: I was looking thru some junk, and I came across why doomed.to is not working:

The name doomed.to expires on Fri Oct 18 12:59:59 2002.

Anyone know if this has been relocated somewhere else or if it was mirrored anywhere?

[falkore]

That's what I had been wondering.

[suprphrk]

Not mirrored, not relocated. I do have qt-gcc3-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm and qt-gcc3-devel-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm if anyone needs them. Send me an email or PM.

[Manaweaver]

http://www.rpmfind.net./linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=qt

They're in there somewhere. Thats where I got my QT RPM's from and they worked just fine. I'd suggest going with the ones suggested by this guide since it was intended for those.

[budeq]

Can now be found at http://bunce.to/showeq/:D

[Hadaken]

I traced down (after about 2 hours) the problems that i was having with MOC error. It appears that my libstdc++.3 was not of the same version that QT wanted... so i installed this RPM here (ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/updates/7.2/en/os/i386/libstdc++3-3.0.4-1.i386.rpm). This solved MY problem, and may be a solution for others (that doesnt involve a re-compile of QT).